Tarheel_D: hi, do you like hamza yusef?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: what's not to like??
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: of course
Tarheel_D: well, i'm new to the study of islam - but i read in one place that he was not good. so i was not sure.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: he was not good?
Tarheel_D: yes, this man told me that he (hamza) was too wanting to give in to western thought.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: ...
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: did he produce any examples?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: the wahabis love to make fitnah
Tarheel_D: i have his email, i'll show you.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: on Sheikh Hamza Yusuf
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: please do
Tarheel_D: dear brother may allah reward u, thank you for taking the time to email me. hamaza yousef is a coward that sucks from the tit of capitalism. he is quick to assist and defend the kafir president of the usa and the danish kufar and is hard on the muslims. zaytuna's duty is to instill passiveness into american muslims and have them work on jihad al naffs in a way that the prophet mohamid alehi salat w salam never did. may i suggest dear akhi this school http://www.islamiconlineuniversity.com/ .
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: suck tits of passivism???
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: la hawla wala quwata illa billah
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: capitalism???
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: subahanallah
Tarheel_D: yes, he was angry as i took it
Tarheel_D: but i wondered about this brothers islaam.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: this is a clear lie
Tarheel_D: this brother who emailed me.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: and blatant
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: attack on the learned Sheikh
Tarheel_D: are you american?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: no
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: i'm Malaysian
Tarheel_D: ah, and you like the sheik?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: of course
Tarheel_D: this is the man's website http://www.al-buruj.com/
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: check out my blog http://neosalafism.blogspot.com
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: the issues that the wahabis
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: have against Sheikh Hamza is addressed on my blog
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: they are nothing more than liars
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: of the highest order
Tarheel_D: well i see on your website, you have sheiks to be avoided. so this man says to avoid hamza and you say to avoid these. how are people new to islam supposed to know the truth?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: check out the proofs provided bro
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: are you new to Islam?
Tarheel_D: in your site?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: akhi..if a person is a fake scholar..would you suggest him for the new revert?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: of course not
Tarheel_D: yes, i'm new. as i have seen wahabbi or salafi seem to be very extreme.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: the lies that the wahabis have on sheikh hamza
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: are nothing more than cheap attacks
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: they are very extreme
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: they will not accept differences
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: everything that is not in line with their beliefs and doctrine
Tarheel_D: yes, that is how it seems
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: approved by their scholars of Islam
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: i.e. Ibn baz and Albani
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: will be rejected without hesitation
Tarheel_D: but i thought in islam there are different schools
Tarheel_D: is hamza yusef a sufi?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: yes he is
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: he is of the Maliki school of thought
Tarheel_D: can any sunni be a sufi?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: LOL of course habibi
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: a sunni should be a sufi
Tarheel_D: i thought that sunni's didn't like sufi's
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: lol only wahabis hate sufis
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: ya habibi
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: sufis are part of sunnism
Tarheel_D: so they are seen as a division?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: yes
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: wahabism in truth is out of ahl sunnah waljama'ah
Tarheel_D: so anyone from any madhab can practice sufism? i assumed that sufism was a madhab in itself
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: no brother
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: sufism
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: or tasawwuf is a science in Islam
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: it is not another madhab
Tarheel_D: now it's making more sense.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: alhamdulillah
Tarheel_D: so in the room "islam answers back" are they mostly salafi?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: yes
Tarheel_D: yes, it's mostly such fighting and putting down. it's hard to learn anything
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: mhm
Tarheel_D: is this room open often?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: daily
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: for at least 12 hours
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: per day
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: or more
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: or sometimes less
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: depend
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: depends*
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: \it's usually open at this time yea
Tarheel_D: oh. i have been going to islam answers back for so long and have learned so little. i think i have wasted so much time.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: subahanallah bro
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: akhi check out this website
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: www.sunnipath.com
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: you can learn much here
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: even take courses
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: from traditional scholars of Islam
Tarheel_D: thank you akhi, i need to know where to go to learn true islam.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: that is the best website bro
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: if you cannot travel
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: though my suggestion to you
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: is to seek a sheikh in Islam
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: of Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama'ah
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: do not fall into the pit of lies of the wahabis
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: approach a traditional scholar and ask humbly to become his student
Tarheel_D: unfortunately, there is not even a masjid near me at all. and i think this is the difficulty - hard to know what is true on the internet.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: subahanallah
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: habibi...trust me...though you do not know me...I swear by Allah that the website www.sunnipath.com is absolutely trustworthy
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: it is run by true qualified scholars of Islam
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: who's ijazat is traced back to the prophet s.a.w.
Tarheel_D: thank you akhi
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: they have many courses that you can undertake
Tarheel_D: yes, i'm looking now.
Tarheel_D: akhi, may i add you as a friend here on paltalk?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: of course brother
Tarheel_D: thank you. i was beginning to lose a bit of faith, allah forgive me. thinking that wahabism was the true islam - but those people continued to discourage me.
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: masha'Allah ya habibi
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: May Allah s.w.t. make the path easy for you
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: and help us all in our journeys and search for true 'ilm
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: Ameen
Tarheel_D: ameen
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: Habibi...do you mind if I posted this private text on my blog?
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: post*
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: or would you like it to remain private?
Tarheel_D: no, it's fine
Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie: jazakumullah bro
May Allah s.w.t. make the path easy for all of us.Ameen.
NOTICE
I do not hate nor hold any grudge on the Wahabis/Salafis as a community. The contents provided here are not meant to incite hatred for the wahabis who are Muslims(however confused they may be) but it is simply to convey the truth and expose the lies that prevail among them so as to warn others not to fall into the same mire. May Allah s.w.t. guide us all.
"ISLAM is the ONLY PATH to salvation. Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama'ah is the ONLY vehicle that may take you on that path. Tasawwuf is the engine that drives the vehicle. If you have these, you will earn Allah's pleasure, Insha'Allah." Onomat Al-Sufi Al-Shafie
Quotable Quotes
"If the first inward thought is not warded off, it will generate a desire, then the desire will generate a wish, and the wish will generate an intention, and the intention will generate the action, and the action will result in ruin and divine wrath. So evil must be cut off at its root, which is when it is simply a thought that crosses the mind, from which all the other things follow on."
(Al-Hujjatul Islam Imam Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali, Ihya' Ulum al-Deen 6/17)
"If you are aware of your humility, then you are arrogant."
(Ibn Ata'illah)
"Never do I argue with a man with a desire to hear him say what is wrong, or to expose him and win victory over him. Whenever I face an opponent in debate I silently pray - O Lord, help him so that truth may flow from his heart and on his tongue, and so that if truth is on my side, he may follow me; and if truth be on his side, I may follow him."
(Imam Al-Shafie r.a.)
"Never forget that turning a blind eye to oppression and watching from the sidelines is itself oppression"
(Harun Yahya)
"Do not sit idle, for indeed death is seeking you'
(Hasan Al-Basri)
Thursday, June 14, 2007
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2 comments:
Assalamu alaikum
How could I contact you? The writer of this blog?
I'm interested in talking to you about salafism, as I go to a salafi mosque.. But unsure about all of it.. I'm a revert too.
Could you list some way to contact you if you reply to this comment?
Thank you.
Salam
Really facts are here about wahabi
Great blog
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